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* http://www.evchargernews.com Charging
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** Arazona http://www.1opossum.com/evs/chargers
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* Effeciency - Here are some Real Life Fuel Efficiency numbers.
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** [http://portev.org/solectria/ho/evmon.htm Tom Hudson's "Monitoring the Car" website]
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7894 Some comparisons of cost of use for Fuel...], Lawrence Rhodes.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/messagesearch?query=Realistic%20EV%20fuel%20consumption%20figures Realistic EV "fuel" consumption figures?], Search
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** 0.26 kwh/m [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/9572 James Jarrett] - Drives Penny 28.2 miles daily, putting ~7.43 KWH back. ~263 WH/mi at the plug. At $.08/KWH thats $0.0211/mile to operate.
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** 0.25 kwh/m [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/8201 Lee Hart] - My little LeCar (VW Rabbit or Geo Metro) gets 250 wh/mile from the outlet, 154 wh/mile from battery @ 60mph.
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** 0.25 kwh/m [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/8124 Aaron Birenboim] - My force gets about 250 wh/mile from the outlet, 150 wh/mile from the battery, Zivan NG3 charger (0.7pf).
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** 0.50 kwh/m [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/8096 Dave Anderson] - With data from 1000 miles (40 charging cycles), 500 wh/mile from the outlet @ 45mph city and country driving.
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** 0.50 kwh/m [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/8085 Peter VanDerWal] - Most EVs Get 250-300 wh/mile from the pack and 500 wh/mile from the outlet.
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** Conclusion: EV's consume about 100 wh/mile at best, 250 wh/mile on average, and 500 wh/mile at worst, from the outlet.
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** [http://avt.inel.gov/fsev.html Production vehicles seem to be slightly higher...
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* [[SEVA:Li]]
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* Bumper Sticker Ideas
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** Hummor Sorry about your "GAS PROBLEM".
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** Would you drive your car if the exhaust came out of the steering wheel?
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** Driving an EV is like walking a poodle. Everybody loves a poodle.
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** Reality checks Infinite MPG!
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** EVs: Not overunity, but a whole lot closer.
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** It's not Electric if you Can't Plug It In.
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** I love plugging in! Do you like pumping gas?
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** No Fuel, No Fumes, No Problem!
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** Breath Easy - It's Electric
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** Hybrids are not Electric Vehicles!
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** No-Gas Electric!
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** Grid-Chargable Electric!
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** I plug in to get zero emissions!
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** True Costs Yes, It Runs on ONLY Electricity! We Can't Afford to Use Gas.
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** Of Course it's Electric! I Can't Afford Gas
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** Starve a terrorist, drive an electric vehicle.
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** Starve a terrorist. Drive electric!
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** Partiotic Powered by 100% American Electrons
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** 100% electric since 1959
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* [http://www.baaction.org/SUVticket SUV Ticket]
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* [http://www.evtech.org/phpwiki/index.php/HomePage EVTech.org Wiki]
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* My EVDL Posts Listing
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*:This is the EVList archive at Yahoo Groups [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive ev-list-archive]
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*:I have linked to a number of rather useful posts, listed most recent to oldest:
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** [http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Prius-2G/message/35207 Good Quote.]
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**: SUV's are a lot like George W. Bush
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**: -- While every study shows that they subject you to additional danger and excess expense, they make ignorant people feel safe by providing a false illusion of security.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/11011 EV definition],Lightning Ryan.
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*** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/2004-prius/message/29200 98 Tons revisited], Prius List.
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Date:  Thu Jan 8, 2004  8:22 pm
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Most people see gassoline as something that comes out of a gas
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pump at $2.00 per gallon. Though few take into consideration
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the entire process that brought the fuel they burn to the pump.
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Here's what I consider: Some millions of years ago the sun
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was shining down on the surface of the earth as it does today.
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The solar energy strikes the surface at a rate of 1 to 4 billion
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Kilocalories per acre per year, or 1,163,000 kWh. Plants fix
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carbon from the atmosphere while sinking hydrogen via photo-
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synthesis, with an effeciency of 3% or less. So just 34,890 kWh
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worth of the original solar energy is converted into plant matter.
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Over the course of time about 0.004% of that plant and/or animal
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matter will become oil, and not limestone. So just 1.39 kWh
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of the original 1 million kWh will become oil. The overall
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effeciency of this natural process is very very very poor.
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At this rate 98 Tons of organic material (plants) is required to
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produce just 1 gallon of gassoline. That is roughly equal to 40
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acres of wheat. In 1997 we burned the equivilant of 400 year of
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global plant growth, including microscopic oceanic plant life.
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http://www.utah.edu/news/releases/03/oct/gas.html
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All of this does not include the drilling, refineing, transport,
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and other "calateral" "expensis". (Health, War, Inequalities)
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To contrast one acre of PhotoVoltic panels which are 13%
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effecient could collect 151,190 kWh worth of energy which
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is imediatly available as electricity with no further processing.
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Wind power is even more effecient that PV. http://www.awea.org/
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The US has enough potential wind energy to supply three times
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our current anual power consumption.
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I have concluded that a Solar Powered BEV is 45,000 to 13,000
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times more effecient than a (Solar Powered) Gas ICE Vehicle.
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http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/10433
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Your Prius and My Insight are such Gas powered vehicles, better
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than the rest of them, but still entirely gas powered. :(
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L8r
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Ryan
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PS.
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BEVs: Not overunity, but a whole lot closer!
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Up to 45,000 times closer to be more exact!
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PPS. Is there Anyone on the list who has figured
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out how to RE-Enable the EV-Mode Button!?
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/10433 98 Tons per Gallon ( THE POINT IS! )], Lightning Ryan.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/9755 "Electric" now means hybrid & Only 60 mile range?], Long Thread
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/9733 Clarifying the PZEV and AT PZEV Lables], Lightning Ryan.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/9813 Amazing(?) LiIons and the equally amazing T-Zero], Jim Waite.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/9427 [RAV4-EV] AC Propulsion News], Paul Scott.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/8454 RE: EV marketing (was: RE: What If America Drove EVs)], Chris Tromley.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/8404 Saturday Night Portland Street Drags...Stunned Rice Boys-Shocked'Merican V8 Heads], John Wayland
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/8059 tZero exciting artielc in NY Times!], Brad Waddell.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7983 EV marketing], Chris Tromley. ( EV Commercial! )
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7940 Re: EV Charge Time?], Peter VanDerWal.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7894 Some comparisons of cost of use for Fuel...], Lawrence Rhodes.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7775 Blue Meanie Mods, the details], John Wayland.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7712 White Zombie Brings Home the Bacon!], John Wayland.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7616 Educating Car Salesmen], Sharkey.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7538 aerodynamics 101 (was "battery trailer")], Andrew King.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7430 Excellent electronic reference site], Rod Hower, "amadare".
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7285 AC vs. DC?], good thread.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7277 We built the chicken & the egg taking away the excuses], Bruce EVangel Parmenter.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7209 Where's The Best Info?], meat.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/7235 EVs after 911], Bruce EVangel Parmenter.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/6159 Study of Ev-1 (& ZEV) Cancellation], Tim Clevenger.
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*** [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/067942105X/qid=1060876182/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/102-0841247-9514502?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 Good EV Book List].
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/6154 Lawsuit in California dropped], Fortunat Muelle.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/5626 EV1 Funeral], Bruce EVangel Parmenter.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/4837 E=motion: the world's fastest EV], Bruce EVangel Parmenter.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/4352 Eee Vee One Fun], David Dymaxion.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/4178 What GM says about the "lessons learned from the EV1"], Ed T.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/4148 NJ ZEV rules blocked by GM interests], Bruce EVangel Parmenter.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/4144 RS-232 DMM(emeter temp)], Joe Smalley.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/4038 Dump Charging], John Wayland.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/4002 Meter damping], Joe Smalley.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/3814 LiIon conclusions], Gary Graunke.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/3072 GM employees surprised how smooth EV1 drives], Bruce EVangel Parmenter.
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** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/3071 My first step into the electric car wars], Bruce EVangel Parmenter.
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**Here are some quick searches by author:
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*** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/messagesearch?query=Lightning%20Ryan%20 Lightning Ryan]
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*** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/messagesearch?query=Ryan%20Fulcher Ryan Fulcher]
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*** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/messagesearch?query=John%20Wayland John Wayland]
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*** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/messagesearch?query=Bruce%20EVangel%20Parmenter Bruce EVangel Parmenter]
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*** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/messagesearch?query=Joe%20Smalley Joe Smalley]
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*** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/messagesearch?query=Lee%20Hart Lee Hart]
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*** [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/messagesearch?query=Peter%20VanDerWal Peter VanDerWal]
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Revision as of 12:11, 26 February 2007

Electric Vehicles are up to 2 to 4 times more effecient that comperable ICE powered vehicles.
Electric Motors don't suffer from power loss and increased emissions over time like Gas and Diesel Engions.

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